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Pat Irwin: Bands, Cartoons and Friendships

Conversations with Musicians, with Leah Roseman

04/13/24

105m

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This week’s episode is a Catch-Up episode with the renowned film and televison composer and multi-instrumentalist Pat Irwin, and we are featuring lots of Pat’s music for you today in different styles from many of his projects.

In my previous episode with him from 2023, Season 3 of this podcast, we talked about his days with the B52s and composing the score for Dexter: New Blood, and we also talked about his band SUSS and his work mentoring graduate students, and so much more . I encourage you to click on the link to that earlier episode if you missed it: https://www.leahroseman.com/episodes/pat-irwin

Today’s conversation also jumps around Pat’s varied and fascinating creative life. You’ll hear more stories and music from some of his acclaimed cartoon music from Rocko’s Modern Life and songs from Pepper Ann. We talk about, and you’ll hear music from some of his projects, including rocking out with the PI Power Trio with Sasha Dobson and Daria Grace, and new albums coming out with Cynthia Sley, with SUSS and with Julia Heyward. I’m blown away by Pat’s detailed memory and this episode is rich with interesting stories, and also his down-to-earth advice.

Like all my episodes, you can watch this on my YouTube channel or listen to the podcast, and I’ve also linked the transcript to my website: https://www.leahroseman.com/episodes/pat-irwin-2024-catch-up

Pat Irwin website: https://patirwinmusic.com/

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(00:00) Intro

(03:25) writing music for Disney’s cartoon Pepper Ann, touring with B52s

(10:06) music: Enough, song from Pepper Ann musical episode

(12:10) process of writing and recording for Pepper Ann

(14:21) music: Photosynthesis, song from Pepper Ann musical episode

(15:45) collecting instruments, Ray Beats archives

(19:32) Rocko’s Modern Life, getting the band back together

(22:53) music: Junk Junkies from Rocko’s Modern Life soundtrack

(26:09) music: Bookshop from Rocko’s Modern Life soundtrack

(27:27) getting the Rocko’s band back together

(29:33) re-purposing music, SUSS new album

(36:55) music: Heat Haze SUSS

(41:28) But I’m a Cheerleader

(43:59) how and why to pitch

(49:54) Nurse Jackie

(50:15) music from Nurse Jackie

(50:13 advice for preparing reels, learning collaboration, students at NYU and Brooklyn College

(01:01:14) can you buy me a coffee? Thanks for supporting the series!

(01:01:56) music from Nurse Jackie

(01:01:55) learning to collaborate as a media composer

(01:04:53) Cynthia Sley Command V, Bush Tetras

(01:07:05)music: Command V with Cynthia Sley Lost On Me

(01:11:58) changes in the music industry

(01:16:18) the PI Power Trio Sasha Dobson, Daria Grace, Pat’s love of instrumental Rock ’n Roll

(01:21:48) music: The Walk PI Power Trio

(01:25:05) George Scott, Raybeats, PI Power trio

(01:29:10) film When Last Seen

(01:30:04) music from Pat’s score to film When Last Seen

(01:31:39) working on When Last SEen, T Venus with Julia Hayward

(01:35:11) music: excerpt from Smile, Don’t Touch That Dial with T Venus Julia Hayward

(01:36:32) the importance of frien

Previous Episode

This week I’m highlighting an episode from the archive, with the engaging and talented Leslie DeShazor who is a multi-style violist, violinist and composer based in Detroit. She teaches students both through the Sphinx Organization and the Detroit Symphony as well as privately. She was named one of thirty Professional Movers and Shakers in the Performing Arts by Musical America in 2019 and in 2022 she released her jazz and R&B album “Journey With Me” which features herself as soloist, bandleader, and composer, and "Simply Complicated" from that album is part of this podcast episode.

This conversation was full of stories and insights from Leslie’s life. She shared valuable perspectives that educators, parents and anyone who mentors children and young adults will find inspiring and thought-provoking. We talked a lot about why kids quit playing music, why so many young adults today have trouble figuring out the direction of their life, and how the educational system can take away people’s innate creativity and confidence.

Link to video and transcript on my website: https://www.leahroseman.com/episodes/leslie-deshazor

Link to Leslie DeShazor's website: https://lesliedeshazor.com/

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Timestamps: (00:00) Cold open quote plus Intro (02:00) album Journey With Me, accepting help (06:16) differences playing acoustic and electric instruments (07:30) intro to tune “Simply Complicated” (13:25) Leslie’s childhood musical pranks, growing up in Inkster and Canton (16:10) the importance of Detroit in many different musical genres (18:36) the influence and importantce of church music (22:47) Interlochen, perspectives on exposing kids to a competitive atmosphere (32:43) Leslie’s approach to coaching student ensembles (36:14) Leslie’s history going to Orchestra Hall, continuity and history of Detroit (40:52) parenting, guiding children in music (42:37) University of Michigan and Wayne State college experiences, James Dapogny, how to guide students, the importance of helping music students with options (51:00) dealing with injury (53:06) different cultures through dance, learning Spanish, teaching with Sphinx (56:14) Sphinx organization (01:03:10) Musique Noire, Eunoia Society, JoVia Armstrong (01:04:45)

Next Episode

Gerry Bryant is a brilliant classically-trained pianist, composer, and arranger. He came from a poor inner-city Cleveland neighbourhood, and was givin an opportunity to attend the prestigious Phillips Academy, then Harvard university. He went on to get an MBA and a law degree, all the while continuing the expansion of his knowledge of different styles of music, and forming his jazz group Pocketwatch. This episode partly focuses on his Composers album, with music of Florence Price and Thomas Wiggins who was known as Blind Tom to his slave masters. Gerry reflects on how access to a musical education changed his life, and how wonderful it has been to discover and champion Black composers. One of the musicians that Gerry has collaborated with many times is the wonderful and versatile violinist Mark Cargill, whose playing is also featured in this episode.

Like all my episodes, you can watch this on my YouTube channel or listen to the podcast, and I’ve also linked the transcript to my website: https://www.leahroseman.com/episodes/gerry-bryant

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Gerry Bryant website: https://www.gerrybryant.com/music

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Timestamps:

(00:00) Intro

(03:18) The Composers album, Thomas Wiggins “Blind Tom”

(08:39) Rêve Charmant by Thomas “Blind Tom” Wiggins performed by Gerry Bryant

(17:16) blind musicians, learning by ear, Gerry Bryant first teacher Ethel Morton, going to Phillip’s Academy, Albian Metcalf

(23:27) inspiration and problems with comparing ourselves to great masters

(29:15) Florence Price

(33:18) Florence Price Piano Sonata in E minor, 2nd movement Andante, The Composers album

(40:49) Florence Price

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(42:24) violinist Mark Cargill, Florence Price

(46:33) Andante con espressione by Florence Price for violin and piano Mark Cargill and Gerry Bryant

(51:08) Gerry’s experience going to Phillips Academy in Andover and then Harvard

(01:02:03) accissibility in arts education

(01:06:42) commonalities between people in different creative disciplines like acting, music, visual art, and the importance of nurturing creative expression

(01:14:12) Gerry’s full life, and Pocketwatch jazz ensemble, getting a law degree and MBA

(01:24:19) What Could Have Been with Pocketwatch at Kulak’s

(01:31:29) the healing power of music and Gerry’s volunteer work

(01:41:31) entertainment lawyer, California Lawyers for the Arts, balancing his life and new album

(01:53:06) Gerry’s foray into acting

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